August 14, 2013 · 10:04 AM
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‘Can we send them to America?’

Across The Great Divide.P. SAINATH

For lakhs in coastal Andhra and Rayalaseema, with Hyderabad everything will go

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/andhra-pradesh/can-we-send-them-to-america/article5019849.ece

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  1. Sekar
    August 19, 2013 at 9:23 AM

    Our party leaders must come out with a clear stand that they will not support both Congress & UPA before or after the 2014 elections. People are vexed with UPA so we must reiterate that we will not support them. This is one reason party lost some image during recent times. We must not support UPA

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  5. CVR Murthy
    August 18, 2013 at 9:32 PM

    What is the stated objective of YSV fast. Fair Deal for SA in Division or United AP . Is there a charter of demands . …. It is good move but good to communicate in uncertain terms

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    • NLR
      August 18, 2013 at 9:54 PM

      I think the objective is to keep the state united till a fair deal is sorted on paper for both regions.
      And also SA people want to know now and not after ten years what their capital will be and how it will be developed ?

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  6. RK
    August 18, 2013 at 4:49 PM

    *** MUST READ HISTORY OF HYDERABAD ****

    KINDLY JOIN THIS PAGE TO KNOW MORE !!

    It’s time, you know certain facts about Hyderabad , that you might have possibly not come across in your past, this Just re-ascertains who has the righteous claim over the city of Hyderabad and the concerned stakeholders.

    1) The city of Hyderabad was founded in 1591 AD by Quli Qutub Shah of Qutub Shahi Dynasty commonly known as Golconda Dynasty. This dynasty have had Hyderabad as their capital till 1687. This dynasty built buildings like Chaarminar, Golconda Fort, Tombs, Hussain Sagar lake, Gosh Mahal palace etc.

    THIS DYNASTY COVERED ALMOST ENTIRE ANDHRAPRADESH as we see today.(http://www.mapsofindia.com/history/qutb-sahi-dynasty.html) Which implicates that, All the people of Andhra and Rayalaseema and Bellary were paying taxes to Qutub shahis , which were used to built the city from 1591- 1687.

    ‪#‎Fact1‬ Hyderabad has been Historically and Financially linked to People of Andhra and Rayalseema for the first 200 years of it’s inception. Not just the 60 years after independence

    2) After the annexation of Golconda Dynasty by Mughals in 1687, Entire Telangana, Rayalseema, Andhra came under the control of Aurangzeb, Later after the fall of Mughals, Nizam-ul-mulk established a new empire called ” Asif Jahi dynasty commonly known as Nizam state/ Hyderabad state in the year 1724.

    3) When the Nizams founded their dynasty, Even then the Entire Andhra pradesh, was a part of the dynasty , this means, even then Hyderabad has been the capital of Entire Andhra pradesh that we see today, taxes collected from all regions, with a greater proportion from fertile coastal lands were used in building the capital city of Hyderabad. In 1766 1st treaty nizam gave away the Northern Circars (Coastal Andhra) to british,in return for payment of 90,000 pounds annually by the British to the Nizam, With Guntur , Bellary, Rayalseema still being a part of Nizam empire. This is when 45 pounds of money would fetch you 1 Kg of Gold!

    4) in 1768- 2nd treaty- as nizam succumbed to British , had to forge a gesture of friendship ,british payed an annual allowance of 50,000 pounds. In 1788 nizam gave up Guntur district to British in return for an annual tribute of rs 7 lakhs. In 1798, nizam signed the subsidiary alliance treaty with british. In 1800, nizam ceded the 4 districts of then kadapa, ananthapur,kurnool,bellary,in return for the payment for the maintainanace of the subsidiary force in hyderabad. Thus by 1802 coastal andhra and rayalasemma came under the rule of British.

    ‪#‎Fact2‬ Thus it clear The entire Andhra PRadesh that we see today has a historical association with hyderabad, which the congress Working Committee has snapped with a stroke of pen.

    5) The Hyderabad state, Nizam was finally ruling had 50% of Telangana and 50% of land from Maharastra , Karnataka ! This means, at no point of time in History, Hyderabad was built with taxes of Telangana alone, as claimed by Separatists politicians (http://bit.ly/1440vZt) . Again the same funda applies that Borefed Farming in Telangana is a very recent phenemenon, the naturally river deltas have been the dominant tax contributors, here the Raichur doab areas, Nanded areas have contributed more taxes than the counterpart Telangana region to Nizams, this was one of the reasons for the surplus budget of Nizams.

    After the Annexation of Nizam state by Indian army by operation Polo , in 1948 ! The new Hyderabad state was formed, with a Assembly, This region was split into 3 parts on the basis of 1st SRC report, on Linguistic grounds.The Marthawada going into Maharastra, Kannada part to Karantaka! (Ironically both these two regions are backward compared to other parts in their states, which means it has something to do with Dynastical rule of Nizams.)

    On 3 rd December 1955, Out of 147 Legislators present in the then Hyderabad State Assembly 103 voted in favor of Merger of Telangana and Andhra , while only 29 voted against it. While 15 remained Neutral. . And thus, Telangana was merged into Andhra Pradesh, according to the wishes of the representatives of People.

    In this backdrop, the state of Andhra PRadesh was re-unified! (not formed) and thus, with Hyderabad as the capital has been making good progress in all the aspects.

    I would like you to introspect, how fair it is … a) Divide the state b) Take Hyderabad away from Andhra/Telangana ? Is it justifiable in any sense? Except for 150 odd years of the 430 years of Hyderabad History! Hyderabad has always been an integral part of Andhra Pradesh ! Why separate now ?

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  17. NLR
    August 18, 2013 at 12:42 AM

    Italy rani anni ..telugu babu anni kutralu kuthanthralu pannina
    Praja poratam sagisthunna …Oke Okkadu..Adharadu Bedharadu
    Praja theerpu ki…inka konni nelalu mathrame
    For the first time in history it will be the realease of a movie from a Real hero and not a Reel hero.
    PORADITHE ….POYEDHI EMI LEDHU.

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  20. NLR
    August 17, 2013 at 2:45 PM

    Devudu sakshi ga…Madam kukka paina …Telugu prajala cheppulu.

    If the people hit this dog with slippers I wonder what the owner will have to face in the future ? No wonder they never visit AP !!
    Yellow media ..veediki YS family ni thitaniki akkuva scene ichhindhi.
    Monna Babu garitho Flight fight tharuvatha telisinatlundhi VH sangathi.

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  26. NLR
    August 16, 2013 at 9:41 PM

    Prajala cheppu inka tagalaka mundhe …noppi telusthunnatlundhi kondariki.

    http://www.greatandhra.com/viewnews.php?id=48912&cat=15&scat=16

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  27. Ram
    August 16, 2013 at 8:26 PM

    టి‌డి‌పి తెలంగాణ స్టాండ్ విషయములో ప్రస్తుత పరిస్థితికి ఎవరిది తప్పు?
    http://rajakeeyalu.com/index.php?page=posts&post_id=287

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  28. Ram
    August 16, 2013 at 8:24 PM

    కాపీ బాబు కి కష్టకాలం
    http://rajakeeyalu.com/index.php?page=posts&post_id=280

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  29. Ram
    August 16, 2013 at 6:33 PM

    Why Rs 5 Lakh Cr For New Capital?
    http://www.greatandhra.com/viewnews.php?id=48899&cat=15&scat=16

    The way the whole Telangana issue is being handled, any sensible person will find it a big mystery and frustrating how political parties can stoop to any extent just to retain their power.

    As if that is not enough, yet another angle has now been taken up by the politicians which once again displays their endless greed. One can refer to TDP head Chandrababu’s statement that it requires 5 lakh crores to build a new capital so this must be arranged.

    Logic is, instead of spending 5 lakh crores on a new capital if the same is spent on backward districts in Andhra Pradesh then all villages will be filled with all basic amenities, all pending projects will be completed.

    In fact, AP can beat even Gujarat if it gets at least 50% of that fund. Instead of talking about that, leaders are talking about money. It clearly shows there are no development thoughts it is only a plan to loot some money into their pockets taking the new capital as the excuse.

    With that kind of fund, there can be uninterrupted power supply with internet even in the remote part of AP. But what to do when we have such shameless and immoral leaders ruling our state and nation?

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  30. Kareem
    August 16, 2013 at 6:14 PM

    ఇవి కమ్మని రాజకీయాలు ……………………

    YSR ఛనిపొఇన తరువాత జగన్ ని నిలువరించటానికి కాంగ్రెస్ తో చంద్రబాబు కుదుర్చుకున్న ఒప్పందం బహిర్గతమే , అంతేకాదు తనమిద CBI విచారణ జరగకుండా కాంగ్రెస్ తో ఒప్పందం చేసుకొని చిదంబరం , రాహుల్ గాంధి లని కలవటం కూడా బహిర్గతమే, దానికి నిదర్స్యనమే గత అసెంబ్లీ అవిశ్వాస తీర్మానం.

    ఆ రోజు చంద్రబాబు మద్దతిచ్చి ఉంటె ఇప్పుడు ఈ కాంగ్రెస్ ప్రభుత్వము ఉండేదే కాదు,
    అపర చానుక్యుడో, వెన్నుపోటు వీరుడో తేలేదు కాని ఇక కాంగ్రెస్ కి గడ్డుకాలమే అని గ్రహించిన ఈ చంద్రబాబు BJP పంచన చేరటానికి సర్వం సిద్దం చేసుకున్నాడు, ఇప్పుడు ఇతని నిజస్వరూపం గ్రహించిన కాంగ్రెస్ కూడా CBI లాంటి తన పెరట్లో కుక్క చేత మొరగనివ్వదు ఎందుకంటే అది గజ్జి కుక్క అని అందరకి తెలిసింది . ఇప్పుడు సిబిఐ ని ఉసికొల్పె కాలం కూడా పెద్దగా లేదు ఎన్నికలు దగ్గరలో ఉన్నై, ఒకవేళ అల చేసినా, న్యాయస్తానల్లో ఉండే తమ కమ్మ బెంచ్ దగ్గర స్టే తెచ్చుకోవచ్చు, ఇవన్ని గ్రహించిన చంద్రబాబు ఈ కాంగ్రెస్స కి నొప్పికూడా తెలియకుండా మెత్తగా ఒకపోటు పొడిచాడు అదే BJP కలయిక
    .
    ఒక దొంగ తన దొంగతనాన్ని కప్పిపుచ్చుకోవటానికి ఇంకో వ్యక్తీ మిద అపాదిన్చినట్లు , కడప ఎన్నికల్లో జగన్ కి ఓటేస్తే మతతత్వ పార్టీ BJP కి ఓటేసినట్లే అని ప్రచారం చేసి , కార్గిల్ హవాలో BJP వలన గెలిసి , గోద్రా అల్లర్లప్పుడు BJP మతతత్వ పార్టి అని నిందించి , 2009 లో మహాకుటమి అని అన్ని పార్టీ లతో పని చేసి , ఎ ఎగ్గులేనమ్మ ఎవరిపక్కనైన పండ్తదంట అనే సామెతని గుర్తుచేస్తున్నాడు ఈ చంద్రబాబు.

    చంద్రబాబు పిత్తిన కమ్మగా వాసన పిల్చుకునే యెల్లో మీడియా ఈయనగారు ఎవరి కాళ్ళు పట్టుకున్న, మా వాడు కాళ్ళు గుంజటానికే వంగాడు అని చూపిస్తుంది .

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  33. NLR
    August 16, 2013 at 2:16 PM

    The Justice system in India could be one of the worst in the world.

    http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/durga-will-take-care-of-herself-supreme-court-refuses-to-intervene-406442?pfrom=home-lateststories

    Some idiot can file a writ against you with no evidence and the Court can order an Inquiry !!
    But the Court will not even accept a writ if someone wants to fight against the Injustice done to you ??
    OMG !! If this is what happens to IAS officers in India just imagine the plight of a common man !!!

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  35. Ram
    August 16, 2013 at 7:02 AM

    YSRCP surge in Rayalaseema
    timesofindia.indiatimes .com/city/hyderabad/YSRCP-surge-in-Rayalaseema/articleshow/21852575.cms

    …Braving heavy rains, a motley crowd gathered on the tower clock road, occasionally waving green and blue flags, which have now become synonymous with every protest against bifurcation of Andhra Pradesh now.

    …minister Raghuveera Reddy had to unfurl the Tricolour, minus the audience, since the people were denied entry by police, sensing that they would create trouble.

    …Throughout Rayalaseema, the top leaders of TDP and Congress party are hiding at homes, fearing backlash and sending their second and third rung leaders to express solidarity with the people. In this scenario, the leaders of YSRCP are only calling the shots, experts said

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  36. Ram
    August 16, 2013 at 4:59 AM

    రాష్ట్రంలో ఎమర్జెన్సీ పరిస్థితులు
    http://www.sakshi.com/news/andhra-pradesh/emergency-situation-in-andhra-pradesh-ys-vijayamma-57373

    70s lo nanaa hadavudi chesi emergency tesuku ravadaniki karanamina media ippudu gammuna untundi.. ento ee vichitram..

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    • Ram
      August 16, 2013 at 5:14 AM

      Iron lady aina oka gauravapradamina adavidanu ana koodani maata ‘widow’ ani cinima teesina vallu teeyinchina vallu.. ippudenduko inko ‘widow’ (sorry ee maata cheppinanduku) ni eemaata anadam ledu, yee raata rayadam ledenduko! Interesting times.

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    • Ram
      August 16, 2013 at 6:12 AM

      Sri Sri Viraat Potuluri Veera Bhramhendra Swamy garu, nijamga cheppinadantlo unte, evarini gurinchi cheppiuntaru?

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  38. sada
    August 16, 2013 at 12:40 AM

    Ippudu enni seats evariki vunnayo teliyadu c voter organization ki
    full false survey

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  39. sada
    August 16, 2013 at 12:39 AM

    aa surey lo TDP ki 6 vunte 5 ani cheptunnadu

    Telangana lo 2 vunte 1 ani cheptunnadu

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  40. Ram
    August 16, 2013 at 12:38 AM

    Pustakaalu chadivi bagane matladatadu history gurinchi. In his debates his hidden agenda is very evident his is working for unification, though he supports about sepatation. May be a part of the sponsored batch. Itanu Medhavi ani ataniki atane cheppukuntunnada LOL? They are controlling the out come of any agitation / movement, by putting own people on both opposing sides. I sense the same thing may happen to APNGO leadership. Being insiders, the advantage they have is knowing what is going to happen much before others. If you look at the way CBN positioned himself neutral or if how the Tolly’ biggies went to meet Modi recently.

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  41. purandhara
    August 15, 2013 at 11:14 PM

    TDP ki, CONG ki single MP kuda raadu…

    9 kaadule gaani, just 1 MP seat TDP yekkada gelusthundo, alage CONG yejada gelusthundo cheppamanandi chaalu.

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    • Rakesh
      August 15, 2013 at 11:22 PM

      C voter predicts always wrong when comes to AP
      overall
      Cong getting below 100 at national level
      What gain they got by dividing AP, nobody knows

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  42. purandhara
    August 15, 2013 at 11:09 PM

    yenni sarlt. cheppina inka survey lanu pattukuni yeladatharendi babu? janala kante,survey lane nammettumarugaa!

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  43. CVR Murthy
    August 15, 2013 at 10:20 PM

    C Voter at it again Headline Today C Voter Survey Projected

    Telengana Congress 1 TRS 12 Others 4
    Semmandhaar Congress 3 TDP 9 YSRCP 13

    I am not convinced … Post Tenegana Declaration No Change in SA ? Something wrong

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    • YS Fan
      August 15, 2013 at 10:26 PM

      Forget about seemandhra
      Does it mean that congress announced telangana just for one seat?
      Why would congress take a major step which would have impact all over the country just for securing 1 seat?

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      • nlr2014
        August 15, 2013 at 11:04 PM

        Does C voter means Kamma voter ? Only that explain the above SA prediction because majority of them would now vote for YSRCP for the following reasons …
        They tolerated Babu backstabbing Ntr to some extent bcs of the role of LP but now hate him bcs he has now back stabbed even Ntr’s wish and their wish of a united AP.
        Tdp will not win even a single MP seat in SA and even Babu knows this.

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  44. Rakesh
    August 15, 2013 at 7:21 PM

    If dummy ram is so confident, develop warangal as the best capital on par with hyderabad . With your so called telangana resources if you have.

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  45. Kareem
    August 15, 2013 at 7:54 AM

    మనోడు మేధావి …………

    Wish You Happy Independents day

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  48. Ram
    August 15, 2013 at 3:07 AM

    సమైఖ్యం కోరుకునే వాదులతో పాటు విభజన కోరుకునే ప్రతి ఒక్కరూ ఈ విషయాలు గమనించాలి
    http://rajakeeyalu.com/index.php?page=posts&post_id=279

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  49. Ram
    August 14, 2013 at 9:04 PM

    19 నుంచి విజయమ్మ ఆమరణదీక్ష

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    • Gopi
      August 14, 2013 at 11:57 PM

      I do not want to build up the false hopes but my conscience says that CBI court not agreeing for Dharmana and Sabitha’s custody and also not much investigation lately indicates that CBI has done what ever it could already. Vijayamma amaranadeeskha will set the things up for us for future if Jagan’s bail is denied this time. we should get bail this time and then real game starts.

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      • NLR
        August 15, 2013 at 2:26 AM

        The information that Modi was wooing Tdp and Balayya meeting Modi must have already reached madam. Again she might be scared that BJP might snatch away few MP seats from T region. So the ball is in her court. Personally I dont wish the Amul boy to be the next PM.
        No matter what happens the recent decisions from Jagan has made YSRCP more stronger than before in Seemandhra. We will get a few seats in T and it is a bonus.
        I hate saying this but the fact that Jagan is not outside over the last few weeks was a blessing in disguise for him.The yellow media could have scrutinised his every word and move if outside. Even if he has two/three months before the elections that is enough for YSRCP to sweep the polls.
        I am confident that it will happen but we should have a Plan B and a
        Plan C beforehand and not wait till the court hearing.

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  52. Ram
    August 14, 2013 at 5:42 PM

    India’s ruler who doesn’t know even ONE Indian language
    sabhlokcity .com/2012/01/indias-ruler-who-doesnt-know-even-one-indian-language-sonia-gandhis-%E0%A4%A2%E0%A5%8B%E0%A4%82%E0%A4%97/#sthash.P40Q9g5e.dpuf

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  53. cgrsreddy
    August 14, 2013 at 1:36 PM

    తెలంగాణా ఇవ్వడం వల్ల దేవుడే కాపాడాలి సీమంధ్ర ను… రెవెన్యూ ఉండదు… scheems కంటిన్యూ చేయాలంటే చాలా కష్టం ప్రజలందరూ ఆస్తులు అమ్ముకుని ఇంకో ప్రాంతానికి వలస వెళ్ళాలి… ఒక ఇటాలియన్ మన రాస్త్రాన్ని నాశనం చేసేసింది

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